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		<title>By: foodgal</title>
		<link>http://www.foodgal.com/2009/02/awesome-abalone/comment-page-1/#comment-7002</link>
		<dc:creator>foodgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wayne: You bring back fond memories for me. That was such a fun story to write. It also was my first experience dealing with live abalone. I drove back home from Half Moon Bay with a couple of them on ice in my trunk. The hubby, aka Meat Boy, did the honors of shucking them, as I admit I was a little squeamish about doing it myself. I&#039;ve shucked oysters and clams before, but never an abalone. We used directions I had gotten from Chef David Kinch of Manresa to pound them lightly, dredge delicately in flour, then saute in butter. Squeeze a little lemon over and you&#039;re good to go. If only I could afford to eat them more often. Absolutely divine!

That&#039;s so sweet about your abalone-diving neighbor. It IS too bad he moved away. What a treat that was to have him share that bounty with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne: You bring back fond memories for me. That was such a fun story to write. It also was my first experience dealing with live abalone. I drove back home from Half Moon Bay with a couple of them on ice in my trunk. The hubby, aka Meat Boy, did the honors of shucking them, as I admit I was a little squeamish about doing it myself. I&#8217;ve shucked oysters and clams before, but never an abalone. We used directions I had gotten from Chef David Kinch of Manresa to pound them lightly, dredge delicately in flour, then saute in butter. Squeeze a little lemon over and you&#8217;re good to go. If only I could afford to eat them more often. Absolutely divine!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s so sweet about your abalone-diving neighbor. It IS too bad he moved away. What a treat that was to have him share that bounty with you.</p>
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		<title>By: wotten1</title>
		<link>http://www.foodgal.com/2009/02/awesome-abalone/comment-page-1/#comment-6996</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CJ, I so remember your piece in the S.J. Merc News. I saved that October 10, 2007 feature article and recycle a piece of it here in this excerpt:
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ABALONE FARMING -- LIFE IN THE SLOW LANE 
SPEED RACER LEARNS PATIENCE IN RAISING PRIZED MOLLUSK 

Author: CAROLYN JUNG, Mercury News 

Saturday nights at the Petaluma Fairgrounds, Silicon Valley mechanical engineer Doug Hayes indulges his passion for speed, strapping himself into a stock car to burn rubber around a noisy, dirt oval at 100 miles per hour. 

Then Sunday mornings, he climbs bleary-eyed aboard his cabin cruiser at Pillar Point Harbor in Half Moon Bay to tackle a different pursuit, one that moves at an excruciatingly glacial pace. 

But when you&#039;re the only farmer in Half Moon Bay raising abalone -- which grow an inch a year, if that -- you learn patience. 

A lot of patience. 

Hayes started applying for permits to establish the underwater farm when he was 35. This is the first year he began selling the pricey, live delicacy to the public and to a few restaurants. He&#039;s now 50. 

&#039;&#039;I like speed,&#039;&#039; Hayes says, realizing the contradiction. &#039;&#039;Go figure.&#039;&#039; 
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That sparked me to drive to Half Moon Bay&#039;s Pillar Point and purchase a few small ab--as Doc Dave says--at $24/lb shell-live.  Stuff happened that day so I didn&#039;t have time to pound, flour and pan-fry myself so I took the abs to a local (Redwood City) sushi place and, after paying yet another hefty fee, had them prepare the mollusks for my dinner later that evening.  It was (surprise surprise) sashimi style and I discovered to my horror that the fresh crunch touted by others in no way equalled the exquisite pleasure I always enjoyed dining on traditional preparation.  Clearly my bad.

It also made me bemoan the moving of a next door neighbor, a retired fireman who, used to free-dive for abs, then later, after pounding several in his backyard, would ring my doorbell when we, with not much more than large mutual smiles, he&#039;d hand me a sack of ready-to-fry abs and I&#039;d hand him a few bottles of top-end Chards.  I so miss those days!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ, I so remember your piece in the S.J. Merc News. I saved that October 10, 2007 feature article and recycle a piece of it here in this excerpt:<br />
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ABALONE FARMING &#8212; LIFE IN THE SLOW LANE<br />
SPEED RACER LEARNS PATIENCE IN RAISING PRIZED MOLLUSK </p>
<p>Author: CAROLYN JUNG, Mercury News </p>
<p>Saturday nights at the Petaluma Fairgrounds, Silicon Valley mechanical engineer Doug Hayes indulges his passion for speed, strapping himself into a stock car to burn rubber around a noisy, dirt oval at 100 miles per hour. </p>
<p>Then Sunday mornings, he climbs bleary-eyed aboard his cabin cruiser at Pillar Point Harbor in Half Moon Bay to tackle a different pursuit, one that moves at an excruciatingly glacial pace. </p>
<p>But when you&#8217;re the only farmer in Half Moon Bay raising abalone &#8212; which grow an inch a year, if that &#8212; you learn patience. </p>
<p>A lot of patience. </p>
<p>Hayes started applying for permits to establish the underwater farm when he was 35. This is the first year he began selling the pricey, live delicacy to the public and to a few restaurants. He&#8217;s now 50. </p>
<p>&#8221;I like speed,&#8221; Hayes says, realizing the contradiction. &#8221;Go figure.&#8221;<br />
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<p>That sparked me to drive to Half Moon Bay&#8217;s Pillar Point and purchase a few small ab&#8211;as Doc Dave says&#8211;at $24/lb shell-live.  Stuff happened that day so I didn&#8217;t have time to pound, flour and pan-fry myself so I took the abs to a local (Redwood City) sushi place and, after paying yet another hefty fee, had them prepare the mollusks for my dinner later that evening.  It was (surprise surprise) sashimi style and I discovered to my horror that the fresh crunch touted by others in no way equalled the exquisite pleasure I always enjoyed dining on traditional preparation.  Clearly my bad.</p>
<p>It also made me bemoan the moving of a next door neighbor, a retired fireman who, used to free-dive for abs, then later, after pounding several in his backyard, would ring my doorbell when we, with not much more than large mutual smiles, he&#8217;d hand me a sack of ready-to-fry abs and I&#8217;d hand him a few bottles of top-end Chards.  I so miss those days!</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.foodgal.com/2009/02/awesome-abalone/comment-page-1/#comment-6991</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[24 a pound retail is on the shell live weight sale, since they are only slightly easier to dress than sea urchins... for consumer-friendly ready to eat steaks, the retail price is more like 70 bucks a pound.  simply exorbitant. the truth is, people motivated to write about this or to think about this are the only ones who care about this.

the economics is messed up.  consumers in asia are willing to pay up to 100 bucks a can, yet even at that price, if you do the math, the farm raised product still cannot compete against that of wild-caught (read poached). basically, it is a simple proposition, until they are extinct, there is not much economic  incentive to do mass produced farm-raised.  so farm-raised has remained a niche market for 50 years. as you noted with all the permit and slow growth, it is a significant upfront investment.  there are few farms out there (perhaps only 100 or so in the west) and little competition. people who run abalone farms are mostly sea-grant academic types who are happy to ship live abalone to japan for sashimi. basically no one wins if the price of the abalone drops through farm raising, no one except consumers.

think about it, delicious protein, eco-friendly.  yeah, that and nuclear fission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24 a pound retail is on the shell live weight sale, since they are only slightly easier to dress than sea urchins&#8230; for consumer-friendly ready to eat steaks, the retail price is more like 70 bucks a pound.  simply exorbitant. the truth is, people motivated to write about this or to think about this are the only ones who care about this.</p>
<p>the economics is messed up.  consumers in asia are willing to pay up to 100 bucks a can, yet even at that price, if you do the math, the farm raised product still cannot compete against that of wild-caught (read poached). basically, it is a simple proposition, until they are extinct, there is not much economic  incentive to do mass produced farm-raised.  so farm-raised has remained a niche market for 50 years. as you noted with all the permit and slow growth, it is a significant upfront investment.  there are few farms out there (perhaps only 100 or so in the west) and little competition. people who run abalone farms are mostly sea-grant academic types who are happy to ship live abalone to japan for sashimi. basically no one wins if the price of the abalone drops through farm raising, no one except consumers.</p>
<p>think about it, delicious protein, eco-friendly.  yeah, that and nuclear fission.</p>
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		<title>By: foodgal</title>
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		<dc:creator>foodgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doc Dave: Farmed abalone is absolutely sustainable. I&#039;ve written a couple stories about abalone for the San Jose Mercury News and Via Magazine. California is the only state with abalone farms. It&#039;s not an easy enterprise to start up. The permitting itself can take years for approval. On top of that, abalone grow extremely slowly -- an inch a year if you&#039;re lucky. That means a huge investment, and years before you start recouping any of it. That&#039;s also why abalone are so expensive to buy now -- about $24 a pound retail. Not that many people are willing to fork out that kind of money these days, even for something as special and wonderful as this. I, too, hope abalone becomes more prevalent in the future, because it would be a shame to see something once so plentiful become accessible only to those with deep pockets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc Dave: Farmed abalone is absolutely sustainable. I&#8217;ve written a couple stories about abalone for the San Jose Mercury News and Via Magazine. California is the only state with abalone farms. It&#8217;s not an easy enterprise to start up. The permitting itself can take years for approval. On top of that, abalone grow extremely slowly &#8212; an inch a year if you&#8217;re lucky. That means a huge investment, and years before you start recouping any of it. That&#8217;s also why abalone are so expensive to buy now &#8212; about $24 a pound retail. Not that many people are willing to fork out that kind of money these days, even for something as special and wonderful as this. I, too, hope abalone becomes more prevalent in the future, because it would be a shame to see something once so plentiful become accessible only to those with deep pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[abalone should be one of the most sustainable farmed seafood, they are slow moving and require little space, they feed off kelp which is plentiful, and there is lots of open space near their natural habitat with pure seawater for eco-responsible farming. yet they are nearly extinct in the wild, disease-ridden (withering disease) and poaching is controlled by criminal cartels. abalone farming has gone nowhere, despite being around for 50 years. 

what gives?

seems like the slow growth rates, are the rate limiting factor here. that and the fact that the cartels will find it cheaper to poach than to buy from abalone farms until it becomes truly extinct. plus there simply isn&#039;t a domestic market to support expansion of abalone farms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abalone should be one of the most sustainable farmed seafood, they are slow moving and require little space, they feed off kelp which is plentiful, and there is lots of open space near their natural habitat with pure seawater for eco-responsible farming. yet they are nearly extinct in the wild, disease-ridden (withering disease) and poaching is controlled by criminal cartels. abalone farming has gone nowhere, despite being around for 50 years. </p>
<p>what gives?</p>
<p>seems like the slow growth rates, are the rate limiting factor here. that and the fact that the cartels will find it cheaper to poach than to buy from abalone farms until it becomes truly extinct. plus there simply isn&#8217;t a domestic market to support expansion of abalone farms.</p>
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